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Step by step Manual BPOS --> Office 365

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Hello Everybody

At the moment we are using BPOS and planning our migration to Office 365 Online. (without ADFS) We have been trying for a while now to set it up by following the information we have from the Transition Center.

 

We successfully download/install Lync from the Office 365 Portal. After running the LyncSetup the Office Communicator was uninstalled.

Next step would be: Go back to the Office 365 Portal  à Home à Set up Now à Step 3: “Set up and configure your office desktop apps”

What should happen after we signed in and the configuration was successful?
What happens with the Single Sign In Tool from BPOS?
Should Outlook be reconfigured? Or is still the old account active? Does it create a new profile?

After we did all this stuff we only could use Lync, the Single Sign In Tool is still installed and Outlook does not work with the new account… (Only Outlook Web Access)

Thx in advance

David

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  • What should happen after we signed in and the configuration was successful?

    I have not seen any noticeable differences. The sharepoint APP should start working as well as Web Based Document features. Really no obvious difference on my end.

    What happens with the Single Sign In Tool from BPOS?

    The BPOS tool is no longer necessary. Please uninstall.

    Should Outlook be reconfigured? Or is still the old account active? Does it create a new profile?

    Outlook needs to be reconfigured with a new profile. It is now a true Autodiscover set up. The sign in assistant does not affect  Outlook. Outlook should autodiscover your domain just like it would have in the days before BPOS. BPOS created a virtual link to the mail server through the sign in assistant. The sign  in assistant no longer affects Outlook. Manual configuration of Outlook is required.

    Basically there is not a large noticeable difference between legacy Microsoft products and Office 365. Office sharepoint etc. remain largely unchanged

    But expect a lot  as all these products become integrated and begin to work together with the web.

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  • Hi David,

    To address your concern clearly, I have listed the questions and answers one by one as below.

     

    Q: How to prepare the transition from BPOS to Office 365?
    A: You may refer to the information on the website: http://www.microsoft.com/online/transition-center.aspx.

     

    Q: For step 2, what happens with the Live Meeting Outlook Add-in? Do we have to uninstall it manually?

    A: An add-on will be loaded to your Outlook client when you finished Lync Online installation.
    Live Meeting Outlook Addin will be replaced by Online Meeting Add-in for Microsoft Lync 2010. You don't have to uninstall it manually.

     

    Q: For step 4, Service Connecter (MS Online Desktop Setup), Outlook and Lync will be automatically downloaded/configured

    A: You just need to type in your ID and password, the Autodiscover will configure Outlook automatically.
    As the other member replied, you are required to re-configure your Outlook either by creating a new profile or downloading Office Desktop App from https://portal.microsoftonline.com/download/default.aspx

     

    Q: For step 5, MOS Single Sign In tool is no longer necessary. Do we have to uninstall it manually?

    A: Yes, you need to uninstall it manually.

     

    Q: For step 6, do all application run now without any further configuration? (e.g. Outlook)

    A: You might need to delete some registry to ensure that you are able to create Outlook profile successfully without Office Desktop app.

    1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
    2.In Registry Editor, locate, and then expand the following registry subkey: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\14.0\Outlook\AutoDiscover (For Outlook 2007, ..\Office\12.0.\Outlook\Autodiscover)
    3.Locate, and then delete the following registry entries:
    •PreferLocalXML=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeHttpRedirect=DWORD:0
    •ExcludeHttpsAutodiscoverDomain=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeHttpsRootDomain=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeScpLookup=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeSrvLookup=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeSrvRecord=DWORD:1
    4.Exit Registry Editor.

     

    Q: For step 7, Does the service connector notify expiring password?
    A: It won't notify you while you can set the password to never expire for your organization through Remote PowerShell.

     

    How to enable "Password Never Expire"
    ===============================
    1. Connect to the Microsoft Online Services Module for Windows PowerShell by using your company administrator credentials.
    2. Use the user principal name (UPN) or Microsoft Online Services ID in the following command to configure the password for a specific user to never change:

    Set-MsolUser -UserPrincipalName <Microsoft Online Services ID> -PasswordNeverExpires $true

    If you want to change the setting for all the users in an organization, use the following cmdlet:

    Get-MSOLUser | Set-MsolUser -PasswordNeverExpires $true

     

    How to disable "Password Never Expire"
    ===============================
    1. Connect to the Microsoft Online Services Module for Windows PowerShell by using your company administrator credentials.
    2. Use the User Principal Name (UPN) or Microsoft Online Services ID in the following command to configure the password for a specific user to never change:

    Set-MsolUser -UserPrincipalName <Microsoft Online Services ID> -PasswordNeverExpires $fals

    If you want to change the setting for all the users in an organization, use the following cmdlet:

    Get-MSOLUser | Set-MsolUser -PasswordNeverExpires $false

    Q: For the last question, Is it necessary to go through the Portal or can we download the Service Connecter(MS Online Desktop Setup), Lync and all the necessary Software and start it manually?

    A: We recommend to download and set up Desktop Web app for each user to configure each profile automatically backend for convenience.

     

    Thanks,
    Anna Guo

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  • What should happen after we signed in and the configuration was successful?

    I have not seen any noticeable differences. The sharepoint APP should start working as well as Web Based Document features. Really no obvious difference on my end.

    What happens with the Single Sign In Tool from BPOS?

    The BPOS tool is no longer necessary. Please uninstall.

    Should Outlook be reconfigured? Or is still the old account active? Does it create a new profile?

    Outlook needs to be reconfigured with a new profile. It is now a true Autodiscover set up. The sign in assistant does not affect  Outlook. Outlook should autodiscover your domain just like it would have in the days before BPOS. BPOS created a virtual link to the mail server through the sign in assistant. The sign  in assistant no longer affects Outlook. Manual configuration of Outlook is required.

    Basically there is not a large noticeable difference between legacy Microsoft products and Office 365. Office sharepoint etc. remain largely unchanged

    But expect a lot  as all these products become integrated and begin to work together with the web.

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  • Thanks for the answer

    We want to migrate as soon as possible and it is not really clear what:

    - we have to do/prepare

    - our employees have to do.

    Would that be the right order of tasks? Did we miss something?

    1. Go to office365.com and login

    2. Home  Install Lync

    Office communicator will uninstalled automatically

    What happens with the Live Meeting Outlook Addin?

    Do we have to uninstall it manually?

    3. Back to the portal HomePoint 3 Set up now:

    4. Service Connecter (MS Online Desktop Setup), Outlook and Lync will be automatically downloaded/configured

    5. MOS Single Sign In tool is no longer necessary.. Do we have to uninstall it manually?

    6. Do all application run now without any further configuration? (e.g. Outlook)

    7. Does the service connector notify expiring password?

    Is it necessary to go through the Portal or can we download the Service Connecter(MS Online Desktop Setup), Lync and all the necessary Software  and start it manually?

    Thx for help..

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  • Hi David,

    To address your concern clearly, I have listed the questions and answers one by one as below.

     

    Q: How to prepare the transition from BPOS to Office 365?
    A: You may refer to the information on the website: http://www.microsoft.com/online/transition-center.aspx.

     

    Q: For step 2, what happens with the Live Meeting Outlook Add-in? Do we have to uninstall it manually?

    A: An add-on will be loaded to your Outlook client when you finished Lync Online installation.
    Live Meeting Outlook Addin will be replaced by Online Meeting Add-in for Microsoft Lync 2010. You don't have to uninstall it manually.

     

    Q: For step 4, Service Connecter (MS Online Desktop Setup), Outlook and Lync will be automatically downloaded/configured

    A: You just need to type in your ID and password, the Autodiscover will configure Outlook automatically.
    As the other member replied, you are required to re-configure your Outlook either by creating a new profile or downloading Office Desktop App from https://portal.microsoftonline.com/download/default.aspx

     

    Q: For step 5, MOS Single Sign In tool is no longer necessary. Do we have to uninstall it manually?

    A: Yes, you need to uninstall it manually.

     

    Q: For step 6, do all application run now without any further configuration? (e.g. Outlook)

    A: You might need to delete some registry to ensure that you are able to create Outlook profile successfully without Office Desktop app.

    1.Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then click OK.
    2.In Registry Editor, locate, and then expand the following registry subkey: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\14.0\Outlook\AutoDiscover (For Outlook 2007, ..\Office\12.0.\Outlook\Autodiscover)
    3.Locate, and then delete the following registry entries:
    •PreferLocalXML=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeHttpRedirect=DWORD:0
    •ExcludeHttpsAutodiscoverDomain=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeHttpsRootDomain=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeScpLookup=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeSrvLookup=DWORD:1
    •ExcludeSrvRecord=DWORD:1
    4.Exit Registry Editor.

     

    Q: For step 7, Does the service connector notify expiring password?
    A: It won't notify you while you can set the password to never expire for your organization through Remote PowerShell.

     

    How to enable "Password Never Expire"
    ===============================
    1. Connect to the Microsoft Online Services Module for Windows PowerShell by using your company administrator credentials.
    2. Use the user principal name (UPN) or Microsoft Online Services ID in the following command to configure the password for a specific user to never change:

    Set-MsolUser -UserPrincipalName <Microsoft Online Services ID> -PasswordNeverExpires $true

    If you want to change the setting for all the users in an organization, use the following cmdlet:

    Get-MSOLUser | Set-MsolUser -PasswordNeverExpires $true

     

    How to disable "Password Never Expire"
    ===============================
    1. Connect to the Microsoft Online Services Module for Windows PowerShell by using your company administrator credentials.
    2. Use the User Principal Name (UPN) or Microsoft Online Services ID in the following command to configure the password for a specific user to never change:

    Set-MsolUser -UserPrincipalName <Microsoft Online Services ID> -PasswordNeverExpires $fals

    If you want to change the setting for all the users in an organization, use the following cmdlet:

    Get-MSOLUser | Set-MsolUser -PasswordNeverExpires $false

    Q: For the last question, Is it necessary to go through the Portal or can we download the Service Connecter(MS Online Desktop Setup), Lync and all the necessary Software and start it manually?

    A: We recommend to download and set up Desktop Web app for each user to configure each profile automatically backend for convenience.

     

    Thanks,
    Anna Guo

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  • David..

    Are you planning to move manually or have MS move you as part of the transition?

    matt k.

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  • Thx a lot!!

    One more question:

    *** Q: For step 7, Does the service connector notify expiring password?

    A: It won't notify you while you can set the password to never expire for your organization through Remote PowerShell. **

    We don't want to set the  password to never expire.. All employees should change their passwords every 90days... how it was done in BPOS... And the question was.. Who notifys the employees a week or two before that they have to change the password.... Does the Service connector will do that?

    thx david

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  • HI Matt

    MS will do that for us:

    How is it with you? Are u planing to migrate as well? Do you have BPOS at the moment?

    Regards

    DAvid

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  • Hi david

    We are a MS partner (www.kamind.net) and have a very large number of clients to migrate.  BPOS to office 365 is either simple or complex, depends on a bunch of different factors.

    In our case, we have been using office 365 since Nov 2010.  We migrated our partner account over in April, and it was a “hard” migration.  Which was Ok, i rather we experience the nasty migrations versus our customers.    We delayed some customers migration until after GA based on our lessons learned

    The main stumbling block, is mail and the transfer of the BPOS license to the Office 365 side.

    The questions for you

    1.  How many clients do you have?

    2.  Do you use Live meeting ?

    3.  What is the status of the sharepoint deployment?

    4.  Have you deployed dir sycn on the BPOS side

    5.  If you have a beta 365 account, are you willing to walk away from the account to migrate?

    Fell free to drop me an email at mkatzer at kamind dot net

    Matt k.

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  • Hi David,

    For Office 365, by default password expiry is enabled.  If enabled, users will be forced to change their passwords after 90 days.  Users do not currently receive any form of password expiry notification.

    At GA, administrators will be able to enable/disable this setting through the PowerShell Client (Microsoft Online Services Module for Windows PowerShell), at the user level.

    For more information about Password Policy, please refer to the link below:

    community.office365.com/.../office-365-password-policy.aspx

    Thanks,

    Anna Guo

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